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Rapid escalation of the stakes and sends them, in classic fairy tale style, off the path
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Larry Fessenden
Love films where landscape is a character
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Larry Fessenden
Recommend Back Country. Great Bear movie
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James Kendrick
Really loving the musical score, as well. The composer, Ben Lovett, did a great soundtrack for a little-seen sci-fi film called SYNCHRONICITY a few years back. Great stuff.
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4 twats in a forest lol
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Jon (Creepy)
What's a donner?
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Larry Fessenden
Nice
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James Kendrick
The manner in which the gutted deer vaguely resembles a human form is quite uncanny. The film has gotten a lot of mileage so far from making the natural world deeply unsettling.
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A Donner kebab is one shaved off the glistening lump of meat rotating on the spit in the food truck
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James Kendrick
Deserted, rotting house in the woods. What could go wrong?
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Jon (Creepy)
Making it a "what choice do they have" to enter the cabin instead of an asshole goading the others to do it is a wonderful idea.
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Jon (Creepy)
Too often this happens because of mocking and not reasom
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Jon (Creepy)
*reason
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James Kendrick
“We’re not the only animals in the woods.” Wondering if that will turn out to be some foreshadowing …
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James Kendrick
Well folks, we just had out first fake jump scare. I imagine it won’t be the last.
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Larry Fessenden
Time to leave
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Jon (Creepy)
That's a WHOLE LOT OF nope
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James Kendrick
Yeah—I think I might take the rain over what’s upstairs.
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Larry Fessenden
Duck feet
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Larry Fessenden
Aren’t they chillin’
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Larry Fessenden
Wake up tomorrow?
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James Kendrick
I don’t think I’d be getting any sleep knowing what is just up the stairs.
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James Kendrick
No one is going to stay up? Keep watch? Bad idea.
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Larry Fessenden
Interesting to think about credibility in even a well made film.
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James Kendrick
That was a cool effect—the lightning flashing and then suddenly staying lit.
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Larry Fessenden
Nice!!
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Jon (Creepy)
And them sharing the terror instead of one person for everyone else to call crazy is a great move
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Jon (Creepy)
Escalates the terror SO much more
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Jon (Creepy)
And then...
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Jon (Creepy)
If that's not the most disturbing fucking image...
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James Kendrick
Creating a real sense of entrapment—literally, physically, psychologically, spiritually? Who knows at this point.
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James Kendrick
Uh-oh. They’re starting to disagree and argue. Unravelling faster and faster …
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The steady escalation of the stakes is impressive - but the big question is, where's the head?
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James Kendrick
I doubt that path will lead to civilization.
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Larry Fessenden
Just a gorgeous use of the trees
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Larry Fessenden
Blair witch vibe?
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James Kendrick
I love the way they are bare and have those hundreds and hundreds of little horizontal branches sticking out. It isn’t literally entrapping, but it gives that illusion.
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James Kendrick
Lots of Blair Witch vibe. Minus the bad video quality.
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Hillary
@Larry I TOLD YOU THIS WAS GOING TO REMIND YOU OF SOMETHING
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Larry Fessenden
True dat
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James Kendrick
I don’t see how they thing something “manmade” around there is a good thing.
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James Kendrick
*think
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"you're starting to sound like my daughters" is a sick 🔥
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James Kendrick
Just in case we forgot about that injured leg.
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James Kendrick
Whoever did the location scouting for this film deserves a lot of credit.
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Larry Fessenden
Nice sound work
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Jon (Creepy)
God that's good
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James Kendrick
So many horror movies rely on dark, enclosed spaces, it’s always interesting to see brightly lit, wide open spaces made horrifying. Kubrick did it so well in THE SHINING.
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Jon (Creepy)
So subtle
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Larry Fessenden
Well yeah what is that?
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Jon (Creepy)
I like that the "fat" pain in the ads isn't helpless/spineless
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James Kendrick
Uh oh—sounds like some longstanding interpersonal tensions are getting primed to explode here.
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Jon (Creepy)
Two crack heads with knives hold up a liquor store, you have no training, no weapon, what do you do?
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Just as we approach the halfway mark the group has unraveled.
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Jon (Creepy)
To be fair, that was building from go. The tension existed the whole trip. Add frustration and fear and emotions will erupt.
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James Kendrick
Interesting how guilt about inaction is starting to really thread its way into the situation. I imagine that will come into play again later.
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Larry Fessenden
True but everyone will blame you anyway. Scapegoat
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Now the creepy AF starts
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Jon (Creepy)
Eveeyone likes to act like they would be brave, they would be the hero The fact was this group didnt like him from go. They grew up and he didnt. This just tipped it all.
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James Kendrick
If the horror genre teaches us anything, it’s that the would-be heroes usually wind up being anything but.
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Jon (Creepy)
I learned that from the first 5 minutes of Feast
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Hillary
Never open the tent
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Larry Fessenden
Love the use of the store imagery outside
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James Kendrick
Ha! FEAST. I haven’t though of that film in a while. Good call.
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Also, tie yourself to a high tree branch to sleep if there are giant nightmare inducing bear monsters at ground level
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James Kendrick
Yes—the merging of the store and the the forest is getting more and more explicit.
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All that’s missing is the John Carpenter soundtrack
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James Kendrick
This whole sequence reminds me of why the horror genre didn’t really take off until the advent of synchronized sound. So much effect with just the soundtrack.
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Larry Fessenden
Nosferatu 1922, Lon Chaney, etc all solvents, but yes sound huge in horror
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Larry Fessenden
Silents
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Jon (Creepy)
Having his head turned like its staring at him ..
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And then there were three
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I think Jaws makes great use of sound.
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James Kendrick
Sound in horror strikes me as one of those under appreciated elements that is really crucial to the genre. We talk a lot about imagery, but not nearly as much about sound (although, interestingly A QUIET PLACE really forced the conversation recently).
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James Kendrick
Remember that “we’re not the only animals in the forest” line earlier? Coming back to haunt them.
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Larry Fessenden
As the author of horror audio plays I agree!!
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Jon (Creepy)
The fact that we still don't know what is out there an hour in is interesting
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James Kendrick
Yes—they are being impressively restrained in keeping the monster just off screen, in the shadows, behind the trees, etc.
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I watched the reanimator without sound once. It was hysterical. Mood plus music is critical
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Larry Fessenden
I listened to the shining without watching. Terrifying!
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James Kendrick
I like the use of the handheld camera. It’s just a little bit shaky, but not so much that you always notice it. Keeps you in a sense of unease and imbalance.
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Larry Fessenden
Elegant filmmaking
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I'm uneasy about the water they just drank
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Larry Fessenden
I thought that too!
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James Kendrick
Blessed lack of cheap jump scares—a few here and there, but much more focus on things at the edge of the frame, suggestion, etc.
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James Kendrick
I bet this film did not get an endorsement from the Swedish Travel Bureau!
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Larry Fessenden
Movie about PTSD and with monsters!
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And a very graceful turn into the third act.
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James Kendrick
I know that technically this film is British, but it fits in nicely with the strain of Nordic horror over the past decade that has turned the landscape, which had previously been a positive space of leisure and regeneration into a boundary-less place of horror.
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Larry Fessenden
American director.
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Larry Fessenden
Wicker Man vibe as well
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James Kendrick
Do we know where the source novel was originally published? Is it American?
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James Kendrick
Very Wicker Man, minus the religious conflict.
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James Kendrick
Say “hello” to the Swedish hillbillies from hell.
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The landscape is an integral aspect of folk horror too, "it" holds memories far beyond the puny human span
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Larry Fessenden
Adam Nevill, author, is British
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Gum or tabacco?
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Jon (Creepy)
Big league chew
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Larry Fessenden
More storytelling through sound
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Jon (Creepy)
A lot of this is Doms fault. His ankle, he wanted the trailer over the direction out
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Jon (Creepy)
*trail
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James Kendrick
At this point, I am starting to think that the film’s title is a bit of a liability since it tells us where all this is heading.
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It's been a ritual from the words spoken over photos of their dead comrade at the cairn. A penance
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James Kendrick
Production design is really fantastic. They get a lot of effect from not that much.
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Jon (Creepy)
God the subtlety of the camera work is utterly gorgeous
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Are those trebuchets?
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Jon (Creepy)
Looks like it doesn't it?
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James Kendrick
Damn—more bone cracking …
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Would not want to be flung through the air and land in that patch of forest
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Werewolf?
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Jon (Creepy)
The constant theme of fear and cowardice takes so many faces
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James Kendrick
Yeah—I would set all that one fire, too.
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James Kendrick
Raspy screaming is definitely one of the most unnerving sounds in the genre.
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Larry Fessenden
He said he would
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James Kendrick
That foot stepping into the corner of the frame was fantastic.
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Larry Fessenden
Beautiful monster
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James Kendrick
I like the sparks falling down from the rafters. Nice visual touch.
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Larry Fessenden
Agree!
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James Kendrick
Now THAT’S a horror image!
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Jon (Creepy)
Dummy
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Larry Fessenden
Back to store
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Larry Fessenden
All been a projection
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Jon (Creepy)
I love this...or my interpretation
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Jon (Creepy)
The thing projects fear to find cowards who will now to it and worship it because it is a coward too
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Larry Fessenden
Fabulous beast
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Jon (Creepy)
And that scream when nothing else makes sense to do. Cry, laugh...live
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Reminiscent of a stag beetle
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But he finds courage
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Jon (Creepy)
Courage from his guilt
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Jon (Creepy)
Such a sleeper gem for me
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Jon (Creepy)
Thanks for playing everyone!
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Larry Fessenden
Horror as catharsis. A fine film
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What did you think guys?
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Jon (Creepy)
This was fun. Off to bed. Later all
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James Kendrick
That was a great ending. Really fascinating play with the idea of how our guilt and fear can consume us.
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Larry Fessenden
Nighty night
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James Kendrick
It was great talking with you all. Enjoyed it!
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Hillary
Thanks so much for joining, Jon, James and Larry! And Karina and Petra and audience!!
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Was his survival selfish?
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More of these!!!
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Hillary
Hi horror experts! Just letting you know that we’re doing another commentary tonight at 5pm PT/8pm ET and watching THE SHINING. https://goodtalk.app/talk/sa4bga
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Just got the app, had surgery today so I missed the talk but Jon if you do more of these in the future let me know, looks like a blast!
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