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Profane ?
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I see a “Jeremy & Friends” release coming soon.
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there’s a Nine Inch Nails tube for example
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HA. yes!!
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tune
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LOVE it.
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Karma Police would be good
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I get that, though. Parents love to rock and so do kids!
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this is what you get when you mess with us!!!
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It’s got to be developmentally appropriate but kids can handle tough stuff - and they want to - as long as it’s not overhwelming.
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We have a family rule that on birthdays the birthday person gets to pick the music all day!
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it was fun picking songs for our CD of covers
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that’s a great rule!!

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Our son is turning 5 next week and he told me he already plans to choose “nothing, theme songs, and Weezers.”
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what inspires your writing ?
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my kids are 13 & 17 now... sooooooo
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omg. love your son and his choices
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So... Jeremy - they’re ready for straight NIN
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weezer!

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more like gnarly trap music
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the problem is mine aren’t
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🤟🤟🤟
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yeah... Renee’s are still sweet
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so are ours... but 17... wow
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Well this is a good thread- when do kids stop being kids?
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I do think it would be cool to make a record that’s got a touch more lyrical complexity... we’ve always allowed darkness in on the musical end
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What have you noticed in your homes and at your concerts?
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I’m still a kid lol
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But... the teen years def become about individuation... as they try to become themselves outside of us as their parents
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we’re all adjusting to that
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I think that’s a big distinction for those of us working in children’s media to remember - children are listening with their parents and based on their parents choices for them, as a family unit.
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agreed
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As they get older, they find their own tastes.
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boy do they!

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yes. my 12 year old is ALL about Billie Eilish

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This is a new time in media because younger and younger children are starting to make more and kore of their own choices.
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*more
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It’s a big shift in consumption habits and for parenting and for media making.
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I don’t doubt that
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we’ve always tried to make music that feels like adult music... with family friendly subject matter
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that’s been the approach from downbeat... Elliot Smith or Nick Drake but quite as depressing (though I love “depressing” music)
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*not
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not as depressing obv lol
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Yeah, that kind of music feels really good for the soul.
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And so does yours!
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indeed

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(Polly): I love y’all’s vocal sound especiallyS
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*especially
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It’s so smooth and comforting.
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It’s like a warm blanket.
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thank you Polly 😊
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awwwwww :)
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For us - our “sound” is sometimes all over the place, but Lyrics for sure take inspiration - I think we find them in small, everyday experiences. Tangible things like a pair of dancing pants, a tiny toy dinosaur, trying to predict when it's going to rain. We're both composers and started that before making music for kids, so sometimes it's less inspiration than just wanting to build some cool tracks in genres we're interested in exploring.
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do you kids ever write with you ?
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Okay, so halfway through - Are we doing it? Is this a GOOD TALK lol! (What constitutes "good"? We may have only enough sleep between us for "mediocre" talk...)
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hey... I want to know who’s “mad” at my answers lol!
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Our kids are sometimes around during the process!
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somebody didn’t like “warm blanket” ... who doesn’t like a warm blanket???
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But sometimes when we have musical ideas and try to dive into actual depth they get so mad. Like, STOP!
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hi 👋 all! I stumbled upon this chat and I’m so interested! I don’t have kids or know much about kids music. I do know when the time comes I’m scared to start listening to the shark song. Can you guys tell us a little more about how you got into this and your philosophy and how to ‘remain cool’ when you have kids?
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I am constantly trying to write a new song called “it’s gonna be terrible” about having to go places you don’t want to go.
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But they don’t like the idea enough for me to be able to figure out what the song is actually about. 😂
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Hi Jess! I always take Devi’s advice to heart: we’re through being cool.
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Devo
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Goodtalk message
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These people do not have any advice about being cool.
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I mean that seriously... as a parent and a creative, embrace it all... the goofiness and seriousness
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(These people = us.)
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But about that shark song...

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🦈
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there’s a great line in Almost Famous about that as well... I’m gonna look it up...
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One thing that surprises us as parents is that when your child appreciates something, even if it sucks, that you can find a way to appreciate it also through their eyes.
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The *way* they like things is better than the thing itself.
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they don’t judge the way the big kids do.
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But I say this as a parent whose kids don’t know about the shark song somehowz
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*somehow.
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But honestly, we don’t let them use YouTube- that’s a big decision for our family culture, a way in which we’ve decide to curate the world for our kids in these early years.
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Lester Bangs, the rock critics says in Almost Famous: “The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool.”
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someone is mad at that one as well lol!
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ha. don’t focus on the mad ones J!
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Haha, never read the comments!!!! 😂😂😂😂
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I LOVE the mad ones!
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it’s not cool
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viva la angry!
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Okay, well, I think we have time for one more short thread! 🧵
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Let’s do a lightning round!
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🌩
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what’s that?
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Everyone feel free to throw in a prompt or answer... we’ll kick it off. Flying or invisibility?
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flying for sure!
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flying
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Would you rather be a dog-sized bee or a bee-sized dog?
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Andrew wants to be the bee-sized dog.
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Polly also. She feels like a dog-sized bee is problematic.
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hugely problematic!
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talk talk or nick drake?
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Nick drake
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talk talk !!!!!!!!
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All day
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On vinyl
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Cats or dogs
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yeah... I’m not choosing
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we wanna do some of their songs on the next CD. fyi!!
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you have to choose if you asked !!
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oy...
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DOGS DUH
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I was just being provocative lol
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We’ve got a roger miller cover on our next record
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But Andrew thinks maybe the clash for kids sounds more promising
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niiiiiice...
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Okay.... fave ice cream?
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Andrew: gold medal ribbon
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brand or flavor ?
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Whatever!
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salt n straw has this chocolate flavor that is amazing!
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peanut butter chocolate
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I just had this dope McConnell’s peanut butter cup flavor last week that blewwwww my minnnnnnd grapes 🍇🤯🍇
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somebody is mad at that. YES!!!
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Oh SALT N STRAW YUMMMMMM
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yes in the orbit butter cup too!!!
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Beach or mountains?
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i’m mountains but half my family is beach
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I (Polly) have an answer for that... I *think* I’m a beach person but I’m really a Mountains person.
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Andrew says mountains.
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Jeremy, no one is mad at that last comment! 🏆
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Well, let’s wrap it up!
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🎁
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dream collab?
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Renee and Jeremy - thanks so much for wanting to text with us on this new thing place!
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that was fun
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Iwe accomplished more than just a GOOD talk, right?

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for sure
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It was a FUNTALK
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It was a GREATtalk
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I need an urban dictionary opened all the time these days.
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my tween says it all the time. just checking to see if you all know.
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Thanks for wording together, everyone!
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Emily ... dream collaboration... I want R&J to work w Johnny Greenwood from Radiohead on a string arrangement
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thank you !!
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It was mark hollis but he just passed. I wanna sing with a full orchestra!!!!
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Andrew: Alexander displat and Brian Wilson
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Polly: Stephin Merritt
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niiiiiiice
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Alright, we’re gonna run - we’ll see you at the next thing! In the meantime, if someone out there had a question and didn’t get an answer - please find us on Twitter @andrewypolly !
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Thanks again, Renee!
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Thanks, Jeremy!
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Gonna go turn your tunes on now while working on our taxes.
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See ya soon!
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