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I am sure the Tex Mex style meal I am preparing looks like some medieval
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We will have a lot to discuss tomorrow night. Can't wait.
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Hi
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HI
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Testing, one-two.
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Season 8, Episode 1

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Can’t top that. Goodnight everyone
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Hi, everyone!
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So Mark how did you enjoy the play?
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GOT season opener reminded me of one of those season-ending Survivor reunion specials. Capped by all-seeing Bran's icy stare at Jaime.
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I wish Survivor was more like GoT. Body count wise
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Can we talk about Bran for a minute? Cause I have some thoughts.
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I guess a good place to start is with those new opening credits. The army of the dead marching, Winterfell, and King's Landing.
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Did anyone watching last night have the overwhelming feeling to tell Bran to just shut his mouth on the whole lineage thing?
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Was underwhelmed at first viewing last night. But on second viewing today, I'll give the last curtain-raiser a solid B. New opening images, too. Something of a surprise to me.
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Underlines how narrow the scope has gotten
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I get the sense that Bran is almost aspergers-esque since becoming a greenseer: like he sees so much and is constantly processing, can’t be bothered with niceties
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Solid B is a good grafe
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Grade ah
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"We don't have time for all of that," feels like a declaration for this season.
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I mean other than him caring for Jon Snow and wanting him in the throne. There is something almost littlefinger-Esque in wanting to gum up the works with conflict between Jon and Daenerys
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Bran's mouth certainly spreads the word a lot faster than the ravens could. But yeah, he might want to zip it on occasion.
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yeah I can see that, Mark. at the same time, I really enjoyed the northerners reaction to Dany, and the old school GOT stuff of uniting people, justifying power, etc
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I really like the iconography on the astrolabe. Nice way to acknowledge the show’s history, as well as that of the region
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does anyone think Jon will tel Dany? I think he will, and that it’ll bite him in the ass a bit
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Has he even figured that piece out yet? Might be stuck on “wait who are my parents?”
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If he can’t lie to Cersei he can’t lie to his lover/aunt
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Lovaunt?
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Kinda like Trevor Noah's segment?
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Auntver?
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Jon can’t help but want to do the right thing. If he’s consistent he will keep it to himself as long as he sees Daenerys on the right path
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he’s also not terrific at lying
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and I feel like Dany might have an inking after their little dragon date
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You think Cersei might have been OK with a consolation prize of Dumbo? Her elephant fetish was quite a treat.
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The big question, though, is with the revelation of what she did to Sam's family, does he still think she's on the right path?
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Then again after years of being the bastard and tossed aside Jon May want to finally Goonie it up and declare it’s his time
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Erik Childress
Eh they had it coming Mark
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in many ways Dany’s arc sees other characters reeling in her worst impulses. maybe Jon will ultimately play that role to the nines?
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Well, the dad for sure.
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Yeah I think her connection with Jon has her on the right path
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She’s even trusting people she probably shouldn’t. Naive at worst but not malicious
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Or her path to him killing her in some tragic ending after she goes all Mad Queen
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I don’t think they’re both getting out of the show alove
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Alive
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That would feel like a betrayal if they introduce her to madness NOW
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And if they do I’ll be disappointed, tbh
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Ominous words regarding Jon & Daenerys: "Nothing lasts." I'm seeing that as foreshadowing regarding final occupant(s) of Iron Throne.
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They’ve been planting seeds for years tho
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The crucifixions, for exampe.
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do you think *anyone* will occupy the throne in the end?
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I think there’ll be some attempt at power sharing, even democracy
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“Breaking the wheel” etc
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They have almost written themselves into a corner. So many want Daenerys. Jon is heir. If she does giving the throne to the guy is not going to sit well with many. Either they both live or they both die
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wouldn’t Jon’s death solve the problem? Dany becomes the rightful heir in his absence
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I could see him sacrificing himself for the greater good
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The greater good
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Yarp
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Erik Childress
Playtime’s over
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I also suspect that anyone who has died and was revived will ultimately die for good. The other shoe has to drop on the “lord of light” stuff at some point
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So a whole bunch of reunions last night.
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Loved every one
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Jon and Arya was legit emotional
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Hound and Arya was really well done
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Yes hound and Arya was perfectly done
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Loved the symmetry of the first (Jon and Bran) and the last (Jon and Sam). The former instructs the latter.
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There was even a Jon and Ned reunion
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Yes, in the crypt! So smart
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Did anyone at first think the dual dragon rides were to get them to a warmer clime so their appetites would improve because they "don't like the North?" I honestly did, but it instead they were a vehicle to some Jon/Dany soap opera-ish gush.
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Yessir
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I felt it was a reminder that people should see the How To Train Your Dragon movies
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Kelly Lawler
I miss the lighting from season 1, sigh.
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John Semley
do any of you have thoughts on the show has shifted from a study of moral ambiguity to a contest between good and evil that feels (for now at least) pretty cleanly drawn?
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And flying works up an appetite
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Mark Dujsik
How to Train Her Dragon.
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I mean I already used this once but I’m sticking by Save a Horse Ride a Dragon
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I think there's still plenty of ambiguity. Just fewer--much fewer--character.
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Well there are still redemption arcs happening and people still want them held accountable. As the ending represented
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yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if Jamie is put on trial or something
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trial by axe and stump
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Kelly Lawler
They are really set on Theon still being big
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Erik Childress
Can I start an argument? :)
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A little quippier than usual. But liked Jon's aside that his wild dragon ride had "completely ruined horses for me."
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"Waiting for an old friend."
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shoot, Erik
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Mark Dujsik
Do it!
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Kelly Lawler
Sure 7 min left, why not
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Erik Childress
Is Sansa REALLY that smart? Or do we just want to believe that because of everything she’s been through? Or that I still have Sophie Turner fatigue from X-Men Apocalypse?
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I think she understands the cunning and chicanery of the “game” better than most
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Jon is still and idealist, Arya a nihilist, Bran is.....Bran. Sansa is sort of a classic, clever, ostensibly moral actor
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She just kinda seems more traditionally pissed than being able to outsmart anyone
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She learned from the best. RIP Little Finger (whose memory has been forgotten, apparently)
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like her dad, I guess
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Hmm. I have her pegged as the final occupier of Iron Throne, but perhaps more by sheer attrition.
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Yes, Sansa is that smart.
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well she worked with Arya to outfox Littlefinger
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What Allison said
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She saved the day at the Battle of the Bastards, and got revenge.
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Erik Childress
When did she get that level of smart?
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Kelly Lawler
What do you mean?
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She grew up, learned things?
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Erik Childress
You don’t just overnight acquire that level of cunning
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Arya says she was always very smart; but I think the sort of naive princess fantasy stuff fell away pretty soon after her marriage to Joffrey
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Think back to Season 4. She played the lords of the Vale
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Is she smart or.just extremely jaded
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She was naive before that’s not the same as being dumb
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She's been through *a lot* of shit.
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I think intelligence and jadedness often produce one another, Becky
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Yeah, she was a *child.*
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She’s been a horrible victim for years. And granted finally had enough. But could she out strategize Daenerys? I doubt it
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Now she’s an adult.
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I never said dumb.
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Dany is really bad at strategy
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Like really terrible
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I think they probably recognize a lot in one another
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I mean, Dany has made some huge mistakes
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Including the one that got her husband killed
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Kelly: Yep. Repeatedly does things without thinking of the consequences.
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As rulers do. But she’s also amassed an army and is the Vegas favorite to take the throne
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One more thing. GOT has gotten away from copious nudity down the stretch after some heavy criticism. That said, the scene with Bronn & 3 concubines really seemed gratuitous to me. No? Yes?
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The crucifixions (again), the Tarlys most recently.
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but again, isn’t Dany supposed to be 14 when the series starts?
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How to lose your dragon!
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THE BRONN SCENE REALLY BUGGED ME ED
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Sexposition.
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the bronn stuff almost felt like winking self-parody
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But that scene told us what happened to Ed Sheerhan.
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As they called it in early seasons.
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like “you thought we moved past this eh!”
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It’s Bronn though. I also can’t see him using that now on either brother
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Winking self parody but also boobs
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Kelly Lawler
A lot of having their cake and eating it too
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John Semley
nothing exceeds like excess, as the saying goes
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Oh, man, the crossbow. Really curious to see how he handles being ordered to kill two guys he likes--unlike everyone else in the world.
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anyway I think our time is up! I’m tuning into playoff hockey! See you all next week
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Mark Dujsik
"That f------ family."
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Very much doubt he can bring himself to do it despite his major mercenary bent.
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Bronn to me is more Han Solo than other swords for hire
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he seems to have little use for the prestige selling his sword brings
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I'm so glad we had this time together.
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Kelly Lawler
See you guys next time
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Mark Dujsik
So quick, final thoughts moving into the next episode?
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Erik Childress
The chess pieces are in place. Personal grievances to be aired soon. Then it’s battle time
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Mark Dujsik
Sounds about right. G'night, all.
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