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Adam Carlson
Hey, that kind of looks like the bathroom at Target.

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Gary Rhodes
Color scheme and ceiling

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Karina Wilson
Am not in the habit of frequenting men's rooms so I just imagine they all look like this

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Gary Rhodes
I wish they did

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Question from Patra
Classic Jack face

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Gary Rhodes
But without Grady

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Karina Wilson
Oh no, with Grady

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Gary Rhodes
His mention of the newspapers seems to connect with the scrapbook on his desk earlier

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Mike Joyce
JOIN US

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Karina Wilson
Like the man said, he's always been in the men's room

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Karina Wilson
Oof

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Gary Rhodes
Time continues to become stranger, not as linear

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Mike Joyce
Ohh Grady

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Karina Wilson
Hello 1979

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Karina Wilson
Stop grimacing, Nicholson

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Naughty... it’s his mother

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Karina Wilson
He looks like Benedict Cumberbatch in The Grinch

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Gary Rhodes
So disturbing

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Karina Wilson
Women are AWFUL. They stop men from doing their duty for such petty selfish reasons

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Adam Carlson
Hop on that snow cat and get outta there.

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Karina Wilson
REDRUM

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Karina Wilson
OK, Def need more wine

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Question from Patra
No he’s awake

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Karina Wilson
None of us can wake up now

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Mike Joyce
Do we know what Tony is?

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Karina Wilson
We are into the nightmare

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Adam Carlson
The kid wants some red rum. Dad's drinking, too.

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Gary Rhodes
Mirror, Mirror, on the wall

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Karina Wilson
Structurally, this is great filmmaking because other than the weirdness in Room 237 everything has been remarkably restrained. Yet the audience is on the edge of their seats, positioned for the final act

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Gary Rhodes
I believe there was a Redrum wine or liquor produced

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Adam Carlson
KDK 12 unresponsive

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Karina Wilson
So many horror movies have a damp squib of a third act because the filmmakers have already burned through their best ideas

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Hillary
I never thought about who Tony might be... that’s an interesting question, Mike

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Karina Wilson
But Kubrick has just been toying with us

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Mike Joyce
Dick should've stayed in sunny Miami

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Karina Wilson
Dick should have stayed gazing at his painted ladies

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Gary Rhodes
So far we could believe everything is just in Jack's mind

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Mike Joyce
Is Tony a manifestation of the Shine? Or something from the macroverse of the Dark Tower

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Gary Rhodes
We soon will learn differently

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Karina Wilson
Or Jack is just playing with concepts from his Great American Novel

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Karina Wilson
Tony seems to be Danny's way of articulating the Shine

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Gary Rhodes
I always took Tony to be Danny's Shining, made into an imaginary friend because he is too young to understand his gift

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Karina Wilson
Danny also uses Tony to talk to his mother when her vulnerability scares him

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I haven’t read the book, but King’s shining mini series leads us to believe it’s his future self

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Mike Joyce
All interesting answers, thanks

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I don’t think I can read jack’s book. Too monotonous

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Mike Joyce
Why that one v on the page?

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Karina Wilson
Wendy + years of emotional abuse + baseball bat +Jack = 🔔🔔🔔

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Gary Rhodes
So intense

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Karina Wilson
The misogyny is real here. Jack's incompetence reduced to such basic terms *even* Wendy now gets it

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Mike Joyce
It could use some rewrites

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Question from Patra
Classic narcissistic

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Karina Wilson
In the book and the mini series the elevator is the location of a significant amount of horror. Here, Kubrick reduces it to mise en scene

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Karina I wish they had the heart button

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Karina Wilson
This is where I feel Duvall's genuine anguish

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Karina Wilson
This exchange starts to tip away from entertainment into uncomfortable voyeurism

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Karina Wilson
Oh Jack

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Mike Joyce
Batting 3rd, Wendy Torrance!

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Karina Wilson
Note the knives have vanished

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Karina Wilson
Because this scene is from Wendy's POV

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Karina Wilson
She doesn't need or see them

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Gary Rhodes
Grady unlocking the door is the first real proof that the supernatural is at play

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Karina Wilson
Lock him up!

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Karina Wilson
Now the knives are back

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Gary Rhodes
Duvall reminds me of Munchs The Scream

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Karina Wilson
Me, I'd be looping them through my corduroy pinafore dress. Two in every pocket

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Gary Rhodes
In these moments when she is so disturbed and frightened

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Karina Wilson
Wendy looks 12 years old

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Karina Wilson
Such a headfuck for the actors that the Oregon exteriors were shot away from the intensity of the Pinewood principle photography

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Gary Rhodes
Bags of holly

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Hillary
All shot in the UK, I think?

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Karina Wilson
Yes, they did a year at Pinewood, which is just outside London

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Question from Patra
Here comes the money shot

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Mike Joyce
More Tang!

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Karina Wilson
Ooooo Wendy

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Karina Wilson
Stronger than she looks

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Karina Wilson
The ghostly patriarchy wants to crush her but she locked her husband in the pantry

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Gary Rhodes
Kubricks office sent Joe a ticket to England on the Concord... he traded it in for another airline so he'd have money for more than one ticket, to take family members

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Karina Wilson
#TeamWendy

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Karina Wilson
Scatman looks a little like ET in that shot.

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Gary Rhodes
Books slanted on shelf resemble N

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Karina Wilson
Since when has Wendy worn lipstick 💄

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Gary Rhodes
Native American tapestries and designs

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Karina Wilson
Especially in Whore Red

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Karina Wilson
Such fabulous production design that delineates boundaries both physical and mental

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Karina Wilson
Blue, yellow, pink, white

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Karina Wilson
Exterior

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Karina Wilson
Duvall deserved an Oscar for this scene alone. Pure, excruciating terror

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Gary Rhodes
Now iconic images in horror film history

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Instead she won a razzie

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Karina Wilson
I have seen and taught that scene many times and it never loses its power because her performance is so visceral

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Mike Joyce
There's a behind the scenes shot of Nicholson getting pumped up like a pro wrestler for that scene

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Hillary
Agreed!

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Karina Wilson
I have much more sympathy for her as a victim of coercive control, doing the best she can, then I once did. And I think that's down to Duvall, not Kubrick

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Gary Rhodes
All those great historical pix on the walls

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Karina Wilson
OK, this I can't watch, *cushion over face*

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Mike Joyce
Can Dick only read the minds of people with the Shine?

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Gary Rhodes
Great question

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Gary Rhodes
I've always assumed so

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Mike Joyce
Obviously he doesn't see that coming

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Karina Wilson
Can I come out now?

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Mike Joyce
Could be the Overlook intervened

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Gary Rhodes
Chorus of voices is so eerie

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Karina Wilson
Wendy's back to disappearing into the wallpaper

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Mike Joyce
That's the kind of high class orgy Frank Reynolds wanted in Always Sunny

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Karina Wilson
And now we embark upon the Officially Batshit part of the narrative

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Mike Joyce
In the book, Danny blows the hotel up, right?

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Gary Rhodes
The Oedipal storyline soon reaches its conclusion

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Karina Wilson
Yes, as I recall. The frozen maze ending was all Kubrick

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Karina Wilson
Recall the introduction to the kitchen back in Act I

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Karina Wilson
#payoff

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Gary Rhodes
In the novel, there are the animal topiaries that come to life

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Karina Wilson
Bad King writing - and he makes a feature of it in the mini series

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Karina Wilson
What's great about this ending is that we have been unhinged from time and location, which have been so crucial so far

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and then there’s the picture

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Gary Rhodes
A not so great novel becomes one of the greatest horror films

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Karina Wilson
Srsly, Jack and Danny have hypothermia right now

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Karina Wilson
But, Jack is determined to literally behead his own son and turn Oedipal myth upside down

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Karina Wilson
Jack blames Danny for his failure as an artist and this is his chance to finish the revenge he started three years ago

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Gary Rhodes
She no longer needs the knife

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Mike Joyce
Jack limping dazed through a snow maze looking for something to kill is how I'll feel here in Boston in February

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Gary Rhodes
Having reunited with Danny

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Gary Rhodes
Guttural screams like a maniac or even an animal

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Karina Wilson
Jack is a shit writer but he can't accept it. Even given all the time and space he needs he produces gibberish. He deserves to be condemned to the hell of the Overlook. In fact, he'll prefer it to reality - in a frequent King trope, an alternate reality offers peace to a disturbed character

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Gary Rhodes
moving camera often seems to be the hotel's point of view in the film

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Karina Wilson
I worry that I am in that photo, somewhere near the back

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And there’s the picture

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Gary Rhodes
"you've always been here"

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Hillary
SO GOOD

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Karina Wilson
"Ms Wilson, welcome back to The Overlook. We've been expecting you"

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Gary Rhodes
As Grady earlier told Jack

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Mike Joyce
Happy 4th of July everyone!

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Gary Rhodes
Great fun! Thanks...

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Karina Wilson
I need a lie down

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I need another drink

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Hillary
Thanks so much for joining Karina, Gary, Adam and Mike!

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Hillary
And Patra!

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Mike Joyce
Thanks for having us Hillary!

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Mike Joyce
Nice chatting with you all, happy Halloween!

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Hillary
Thanks Mike!

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Karina Wilson
Happy Halloween! But as someone who does horror all year round (not just in Shocktober) let's do this again soon! Love the idea of The Thing one snowy night, although obvs snow is relative in SoCal

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Looking forward to next time

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Again I want the heart button for the thing!

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Mike Joyce
Yeah I'm up for doing this again, not just October.

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Mike Joyce
Stay spooky everyone

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Hillary
Thanks Gary!!!

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Thanks Karina!

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Thanks Adam!

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Thanks again mike!
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