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Medium Rick Bunch
Welcome to Paranormal Talk! Tonight we're discussing, Ghosts, Spirits & Demons, Oh My! Join us every Sunday 7pm CT/8pm ET/5pm PT for all things paranormal. My name is Rick Bunch I'm a Spiritual Medium joining me are my paranormal colleagues, Jason Bland, Jamie Damelos, Rob Autrey, Sam Myers. Tonight's discussion Ghosts, Spirits and Demons was chosen to help clear up any misunderstandings on who, what and more. What's the difference between them and again shed light on this. Okay, so let’s share our beliefs about life after life and what’s next! Don't forget if you have a question use the submit button at the bottom plus insert emojis!
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Will be beginning our discussion on ghost spirits and demons on my in about 10 minutes don't forget to share tonight's discussion with your friends social media we'd appreciate it
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Jamie Damelos
Hello everyone!
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Medium Rick Bunch
Greetings everyone
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Is Sarah and Rob and Jason around
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Jamie Damelos
Should be
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Medium Rick Bunch
Tonight we're discussing ghost spirits and demons what's the difference and why should we know
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Sam Myers
Who is Sarah?
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Sam Myers
😝
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Medium Rick Bunch
Oops forgive me Sam I'm going to blame it on me text talk translation LOL
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Sam Myers
Hi guys!!
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Jason Bland
Hi everyone!
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Sam Myers
@rick I know I’m kidding 😉
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Medium Rick Bunch
Hello Sam hello Jason how are you guys doing did you have a good Thanksgiving
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Jamie Damelos
Hi jason!
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Jamie Damelos
Hi sam!
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Rob Autrey
Well hello
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Sam Myers
I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving!! We have had a house full of flu and pneumonia 🤒
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Medium Rick Bunch
Well thought I would start out with sharing my thoughts what ghosts are hi Rob welcome
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Rob Autrey
Yeah sicksgiving here. But hey we all shared it in true tradition
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Medium Rick Bunch
I guess get it over with right Sam sorry to hear about that
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Jamie Damelos
Hi rob!
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Medium Rick Bunch
Sam I would like to hear from you about your research and opinions on dose if you would share to begin our conversation this evening
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Sam Myers
According to the late Hans Holzer, professor of Parapsychology and writer of 119 books on the subject, "Ghosts are similar to psychotic human beings, incapable of reasoning for themselves. … Spirits on the other hand are the surviving personalities of all of us who pass through the door of death in a relatively normal fashion." I’m a fan of Hans Holzer but I don’t agree with that. Rob and I are sitting here talking now about what makes a spirit and what makes a ghost. WHO decides what a ghost is and WHAT a spirit is? Are you a ghost until you reach another vibration which allows you to vibrate at a higher frequency and THAN you’re a spirit? Where is the rules and regulations book when you need it👻
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Jason Bland
Holzer was also a big advocate for geology and geomagnetics playing a big role in paranormal experiences and activity
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Medium Rick Bunch
If I may respond to Sam's opening statement and the question regarding who decides or what is a ghost and what is a spirit and how do they evolve or become or move on those are awesome awesome
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Again this is my opinion and my experiences in my response to this question of ghost and psychotic human beings it kind of bothers me because I
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Disagree
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Rob Autrey
Same here
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Medium Rick Bunch
First of all ghost and Spirits are the same so keep that in mind these are the souls of human beings that have left their Earthly that's all to exist and interact and this physical dimension we exist in today and reference to as life
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Jamie Damelos
I disagree as well ive always felt differently on that subject
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Medium Rick Bunch
Ghost are spirits or Souls that have made the choice she stays behind close to the Earth plane for multiple reasons
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Ghost are usually or their mindset is of fear the fear of going into the lights
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Jason Bland
I’ve always thought that residual Hauntings should be called ghosts and all else is really spirit in the end
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Medium Rick Bunch
Why are they fearful versus a majority of us go and crossover making the transition transformation and continue existing and living on the other side
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I believe from my again from my experiences when I've asked ghost to cross over to the next round the natural order of the cosmos
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In general the ghost is negative why because they were negative person when they were living in this world and hence the fear from religion scares them because they do not know where is going to happen to them and they don't want to go to hell so they remain behind
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Sam Myers
Ghost seems more past and spirit seems more present- does that make any sense?
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Medium Rick Bunch
You also have a ghost that may have died under extreme horrific circumstances or what shots you know it was a sudden horrible death and they get disoriented or trapped and feel like they still have things to do here and attempt to do that
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Jason Bland
Or ones who don’t know they are Dead like Six Sense or The Others .... whoops spoilers lol
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Rob Autrey
My opinion or belief is that every living thing has a soul, spirit, or an energy within the confines of the physical body. Once the body dies that energy etc moves out but is still somewhere. Heaven, hell, purgatory, next door?
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They are so strongly attached to either their property home family business it holds them here if you will which to me is an indication of the lack of knowledge or truth because they are afraid of the unknown
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Jamie Damelos
Im with u there rob
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Jason Bland
Or afraid of hell
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Jamie Damelos
If they have/had a soul that energy has to move to something or sonewhere else
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Jamie Damelos
True jason
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Medium Rick Bunch
@Rob regarding your opinion Rob when the body dies in energy moves out but it's still somewhere I agree it does not die we did not create it therefore it is us before coming here it is us now in the present moment and it will be us after this life you never die and you've never been dead it is only the vessel Spirit form needed 2 live exist operate in daily life here
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Jamie Damelos
Ya i dont thi k we ever truly actually "die"
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Medium Rick Bunch
At Jason exactly thank you that is where religion has had a huge impact on the fear of life after death and if you do not believe in a specific way you're going to go to hell that is spear that is control and it's wrong and I believe it has one of the most major factors why people do not make the transition Again by choice because their mindset is scared to go to hell so they believe in this position that they are now living in without a body is better than going in Bernie and pitchforks and fire which is all lies and it's wrong and I believe this is part of the work for those people called to do so
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Sam Myers
@ Jamie “Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.”-Einstein Look at me full of quotes today 😀
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Medium Rick Bunch
Sam what did I just say
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Jason Bland
I also think we are all playing characters we chose and some characters don’t want the story to end. In other words there is our true soul which could be something completely different then our chosen character.
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Exactly what you're quoting is we don't create it it can't be destroyed but yes it can change and grow and become something less or better and that's where choice free will come in
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I said it on reference to something Jamie said because it made me think of that quote.
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Social change characters and roles what do you think that has to do with our purpose here in this life
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Rob Autrey
I have had personal experiences with death that make me believe that there is something afterwards. For example My grandfather dying and my grandmother his wife knew before we told her. She said I know. He came to me, sat on the bed held my hand and told me he was ok and would be waiting on me but not to be in any hurry and that everything was fine. She knew and there was no way she could of known.
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Rob I have to say that blows my mind
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My grandmother husband my grandfather and others who passed in the family would come to her before anyone knew that they were dead
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Rob Autrey
I know it blew mine when it happened
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Sam Myers
So-What about Demons? Do you think they were created by the church,are lower vibrational beings from other plains of existence,or real biblical monsters being licked by the flames of hell waiting for a way out?
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They would come and she would sit and talk with them in full form solid
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Sam first of all I hope you know I wasn't purposely being in rude
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Sam Myers
Of course not!
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Medium Rick Bunch
But I would like to get your opinion what do you think about these beings we call today
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Sam Myers
Communication thru text is always fun cause you can’t hear intent. I just get excited to talk about this stuff and sometimes it comes out wrong.
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Rob Autrey
@ Rick Yep same with mine. She said she had a full back and forth conversation with him as he was sitting there. She said she could feel his Hand holding hers. My grandfather was bed ridden when he passed and couldn’t walk.
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Okay demons well one of my responses to Sam's the biblical monsters Bane lick By Flames of hell waiting to get out the history goes back many many ancient civilizations relieved in creatures entities that existed that were not human and I also believe that these beings star night created using the same form of energy for that oven evolving soul such as a human being
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I don't like the word demon but that's what people use today I believe demons have all been grouped into this big category and it's so much more than that
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Sam Myers
I agree with the word demon, and also think it’s thrown around loosely.
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Rob Autrey
I think there are some living people that are so evil they could be called demons lol
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These are creatures that literally feed get their nourishment, thrills similar to that of maybe a psychopath uman but suped-up because it's not human and does not have a soul
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Jamie Damelos
Agreed rob lol
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Jason Bland
I think there has to be a variety of different kinds of entities in multiple dimensions. Demons is just a term for something much bigger than we can imagine
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Jamie Damelos
Term thrown around WAY too loosley
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I don't know about demons but if they're human and they're evil Bad negative people Souls and they do not cross over I think there can be a misinterpretation of it being a Evil Soul versus an actual demon or demonic activity
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Keep in mind we also have angels or beings of light that are for the higher good of our evolvement why because one cannot exist without the other and that is part of the bigger picture of balance I believe our Supreme creative men and women night and day fire and water and Angels and Demons there has to be a balance within the universal Cosmos
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What happens to a ghost who’s been trapped here for thousands of years? Do they turn into something else eventually losing their original identity? Maybe being now perceived as a demon?
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I love that Jason if we still keep in the concept that these demons are or were never created humans which is key because we as humans have the authority over them but they don't want us to know that there is a hierarchy there is an order there are those that just gather information spies if you will
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I wish I had a copy of the ghost/spirit rules and regulations book so I could get a peek at the protocols 😉
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But a negative or evil person that has not crossed over made the decision to stay here not trapped then you have
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Rob Autrey
That’s one I always question being a paranormal researcher is who we are really talking to? If the good people pass on to heaven or wherever and the bad ones have chosen to stay here and roam the earth. I don’t really want to talk to just the Jeffery Dahmers of the world or worse.
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But does it make them bad or negative because they chose to stay and be stuck?
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Something that has changed as we talked about earlier energy changes so the form of hit this evil energy that's been existing here has obviously adapted to surviving keeping that energy alive has changed 2 something dark heavy different and I believe has lost the interest to even think about transitioning to the other side
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So I believe sometime Legends people for Kicks Will Worship and that is powerful that is energy that is now requiring more energy from us such as a vampire
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It would be sad to be stuck here and be earthbound so long you’d forget who you are
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So in the long run it's going to feed off us or anything negative and attached itself to an innocent person who has given ground for this entity that was once human to be a part of that family's life and will follow them constantly causing problems issues whatever it may be to eat
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Jamie Damelos
Yeah it would sam
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Rob Autrey
The thing that would not leave. Lol
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And you know it's real simple recognize that you're in charge recognize that you have the authority to denounce any grounds given to them knowingly or not and reclaim it
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Rob Autrey
Free will
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Do a blessing ritual prayer intent to exercise clear clean your family home whatever it may be and no you will be alright they don't want you to know that take charge it's called spiritual warfare people we need to wake up
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Sam Myers
Is there a specific prayer you could recommend for attachments, Rick?
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Sorry it's bugs me fat people are victims of these attacks that is part of the Paranormal that Unseen World but we know it exist but yet we allow it 2 have some sort of authority given or not knowingly or not
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Actually I do I came up with a reclaiming your property prayer I recommend that the family does it together and you did now it's quite intense thurl and it works
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I was called out to do an investigation and the word was demonic activity
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So long story short when I answered the home this beautiful young child maybe 3-4 I don't know was sitting on the or by the fireplace and we had eye contact
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So as I'm walking with the team through the location I asked about where's the boy the little boy and they said there is no little boy here
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Jamie Damelos
Wiw rick!
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Medium Rick Bunch
Why am I saying this because all said and done that little boy was not a little boy and it was not human and we had to cast it out of the location and the prayer I reference actually came from that situation
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Sam Myers
That’s amazing!
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Sam Myers
Oh wait- WHAT was it??
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Medium Rick Bunch
It's amazing that being bald brazen cunning that went into fooling in order to be hidden
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Jamie Damelos
I see its already been an hour, time flies! Great talk everybody and I hope everybody has a great night, take care Rick and Sammy, see you Jason and Rob on paranormal soup soon!
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Jamie Damelos
Good night everyone!
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Jason Bland
Have a great night everyone night everyone!
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Jason Bland
Goodtalk message
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Medium Rick Bunch
They will mimic people attach themselves to people and will become like a friend or family member but the whole time there energy is about bring you down illnesses issues and what not
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Sam Myers
Thank you all for such a great conversation!!
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Rob Autrey
Good night everyone catch ya again next week
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Medium Rick Bunch
I'm sorry everybody I didn't realize it was past 9 thank you for all your input and you guys have a great week and we'll see you next Sunday same time and same channel LOL
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Rob Autrey
You to Rick. Hope ya feel better soon too.
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